Ostens Question

[osten]

Congrats to both of you, you both played a great game that basically was the exact opposite.

Shawn, I can see why you laid low & appluad you on that. To make it to F2 in 2 games back to back is an accomplishment.

Andrew, to make it to F2 and piss off as many people as you have is also an accomplishment. Even though you didn't play all the idols you had, people still thought that you had them & that is definetly a factor in you getting to F2.
In your opening statement you said that you told me to switch the tribes.The thing is I told " you" i had the power to switch the tribes.The reason the tribes were switched was because Ryan wanted to get rid of the people who were good in challenges. At first he was targetting me, then when you did well he started targetting you. The tribes were switched to put me, you, & Shawn on a seperate tribe. Thereby hoping that the people who weren't participating in the challenges( Rupert, Fairplay & Ryan) would be voted off.

I'm just wondering how many other things you have taken credit for when in actuality it was someone else. I give you a lot of credit for getting peoples idols( why no one would confirm it with the host first is beyond me) & also for faking the black vote.

My question for you is WHO in this game have you not lied to or taken advantage of ?? I realize that lieing is part of the game BUT, why did you feel that you had to attack people personally. Even when you made F2 you still attacked people which in my mind shows that you must feel very confident that you can treat people however you want & still win.

Shawn, my question for you is if I had not flipped on the alliance would I still have been voted out at F4 ??
If so why??

[Andrew Savage]

Osten's Answer

My question for you is WHO in this game have you not lied to or taken advantage of ?? I realize that lieing is part of the game BUT, why did you feel that you had to attack people personally. Even when you made F2 you still attacked people which in my mind shows that you must feel very confident that you can treat people however you want & still win.

I never took advantage or lied to Shawn or Michelle. But people have to understand that lying is apart of the game and I didn't do it just for the hell of it as you see my lying and plans were mapped out and they were a chain reaction and something that helped me progress much further into the game and it helped me make the final two. I didn't feel I needed to attack people personally actually it just sometimes came out of my mouth and I didn't think before I talked to some people.

Half the times it was jokes to try and lighten the mood. . but then again like I said before I don't know you guys in real life so I don't think it could be classified and being PERSONAL, but I do think it was messed up on how I talked to you guys in a rude derogatory manor and I'm sorry for that, I truly am.

And a note to you saying that I am taking credit for your tribe swap. . I never said that I manipulated you into doing so. I just said that I asked you to please swap the tribes up because I felt like I was in danger and that little comment I put in my opening statement I was trying to show people Shawn, you and I did work together well at times and sometimes we didn't. I never took credit for it and I'm sorry for how that was written.

I think Osten and I would hope you don't take what I did personally and I hope as you being a strong player can see I played the game well because I know on AIM and stuff when I told you I don't think I would win if I got in the final two you said many times you think I would win and I deserved it. . . and you would most likely vote me.

arasfromexile: you can win against me so taking me to f2 is smartt.
gpn1222: I appreciate that
gpn1222: I won't beat you
arasfromexile: why??
gpn1222: You outplayed everybody
gpn1222: Just the idol thing was pure genius
gpn1222: I'd give you my vote just based on that

That is something you told me in a message on AIM and I would just like you to before you make your decision on who you're voting to win this game if you're going to vote for the player who played their heart out or someone who just kicked back and let people play the game, I think I deserve to win this game and I did a lot of things and at one time I was in a minority with Shawn when you swapped with the other alliance.

I hope that answers your questions, and if it doesn't just holler at me.

[Shawn Cohen]

Oct 27, 2008 17:48:08 GMT -4 osten said:

Shawn, my question for you is if I had not flipped on the alliance would I still have been voted out at F4 ??
If so why??

Thanks for the question, Osten. First off I want to respond to something that Andrew said, he told me he NEVER lied to me or took advantage of me which is an absolute lie. He also tried to steal my idol, he lied to me about giving Nicole an idol, among other things. His best alliance mate was not even beyond his lies.

Now to answer your question, yes you would still have been voted out at final 4. I knew I wanted to go against Andrew in the final 2, and I didn't think you would have taken me to the final 2 if you won the final 3 IC. I knew that either Andrew or I could probably beat Trish, so that was just the smart move to make. I was scared because you were a challenge beast, so I knew I couldn't face you in the F3 IC. Hope that helps, and best of luck with your vote.