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Post by Michelle Tesauro on Oct 27, 2008 2:33:03 GMT -4
First off, I want to say Congrats to the two of you. I liked you both in the game so I have no problem voting for either one of you to win. I do of course have questions and statements I'd like to make as well though. I'll start with you Andrew. Andrew I felt like people were sooo dumb to give you their idols. Right when you asked me for mine I thought it was crazy that you'd think I'd give up the only thing that I knew in this game that would keep me safe. You succeeded though in getting people to for some reason give up that safety and applaud you for that. Sean is right in saying you're the evil one standing in the Final 2. At times I found you to be very cocky and also selfish. You seemed to cause problems when they didn't even need to be caused. When I approached you about giving me one of your many idols because I knew that I would probably be going. You kinda hesistated and didn't go along with it. I received the idol literally one hour before Tribal Council when I wasn't on to play it..kinda sucky. lol My question to you though is looking back would you play the game the exact same? Would you include the personal attacks you made on some people here in your game play and all the other things you did that didn't seem to help you get to the end and could very well hurt you from winning this game? Now to Shawn, I liked you a lot in the game. When we were talking to one another I found you a pleasure. I thought you really were a nice guy through it all and I applaud you for staying positive. The thing is unlike Andrew who I know what he did in this game to get to the Final 2. I'm kinda unsure at what it is that you did to get yourself to the end. So I want to know what moves in this game you made on your own, what were your ideas and how did they help you get to the end. I want to know what you did seperate from Andrew to get to the Final 2. Thanks guys, I look forward to hearing your answers
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Post by Andrew Savage on Oct 27, 2008 19:36:41 GMT -4
Michelle's Answer
My question to you though is looking back would you play the game the exact same? Would you include the personal attacks you made on some people here in your game play and all the other things you did that didn't seem to help you get to the end and could very well hurt you from winning this game?
As I think about it I would play the game the exact same but I would change something a little bit I noticed I hurt A LOT of people's feelings and honestly in the game I really didn't see that because as the game progressed round, after round I became much more ruthless and I was cut-throat and at that time that was my element in the game so I didn't see the difference or just thought to myself that people were over-reacting.
So that's the only thing I would change is how I treated certain people, I feel as if when people treat me like crap in a game I just get in an evil mood too because I know it's online in a game and people when in a game or competition are in it for themselves and they can come off as rude- which in turns hurts people's feelings. I am sorry for everyone ONLY FOR THAT if I did treat you like that.
It also turned into who I was in this game everyone hated me so why not have some fun and be stuck up and flaunt things? I had no one really to talk to so I became careless and I felt as if I was a villain and got into the role and made very big moves in this game that changed the whole DYNAMIC of it and I can't help the way I played because I don't have a time machine. I think how I played it strategically was really good and I really analyzed and worked my agenda before I put it into affect and I ALWAYS did stuff on my own I didn't always need Shawn's approval.
Like many people have said in their questions, or statements Shawn did ride my coattails for some part of the game and I feel I nailed the strategic part of the game and I tricked people so my ass wouldn't be the next to go and the order and boot order I planned worked and it got me here. I always stuck up for myself and didn't let ANYONE mess with me and I feel that was good. So I think I did everything this time around perfectly except for watching out for people's feelings.
About the personal attack thing. . . I wouldn't necessarily say it was PERSONAL ATTACKS because I don't know anyone of you in REAL LIFE and I'm sure all of you are nice and caring people but when you come into a game you're a new person and you have to separate the two when playing the game of Survivor. I think people should really put all things aside that I did and see that I played the game by the rules that were given by the host and I did what I had to. . to of made it this far and I'm happy. Look at the survivor seasons think of the winners. . were they all innocent? Were they all nice to everyone, or does everyone have their moments? But some are more vocal about it.
EXAMPLE: At one of the tribal councils were Ryan Shoulders was voted out of the game SHAWN casted a vote making fun of RYAN S. It was all messed up and upside down making fun of him because Shawn said he could NEVER understand him and people need to see I was not the only person to make fun of people or be an ass, I was just blunt and I was upfront and I allowed you to yell back at me, I didn't go behind your back and talk because my feelings were out into the open.
I hope that all this doesn't hurt my chances of winning and I hope people will see that I deserve to win the game and I played the game the best way I could, and I didn't ride ANYONE'S COATTAILS and I could fend for myself. I hope that answers your questions Michelle, and thank you!
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Post by Shawn Cohen on Oct 27, 2008 22:32:02 GMT -4
Now to Shawn, I liked you a lot in the game. When we were talking to one another I found you a pleasure. I thought you really were a nice guy through it all and I applaud you for staying positive. The thing is unlike Andrew who I know what he did in this game to get to the Final 2. I'm kinda unsure at what it is that you did to get yourself to the end. So I want to know what moves in this game you made on your own, what were your ideas and how did they help you get to the end. I want to know what you did seperate from Andrew to get to the Final 2. Thanks guys, I look forward to hearing your answers Thanks for the question, Michelle. I do feel like I was a pretty easy person to get along with and that was part of my strategy, being hated hardly EVER gets you to the end in these games. I did, however, play a key role in how this game shaped up. The first thing I did was make my very first alliance with Burton. Burton and I are good friends, so an alliance was only natural. I also was the one who gave him the idol to save him, NOT Andrew as was originally thought by people. That was my idea, Andrew was SUPPOSED to give one to Nicole, and he lied to me and said he would. I also was playing both sides of the fence for a good portion of the pre-merge game, which most of you probably don't know about. I also had a secret alliance with Tijuana which kept me on everyone's good side. I was playing both Andrew and Tijuana at the same time, doing almost the same thing. I was staging an argument with both of them so the other thought I was mad. Obviously me getting the double vote was a good move and I actually got into a couple of the other boxes, but a little too late. I think the only person who knew I had the double vote or made any fuss about it was Andrew, so I was able to keep that a secret as well. Staying UTR was probably my biggest strategy in this game though. I definitely didn't plan on making myself known as a previous winner, and I didn't want many people to even notice I was in the game. That got me to where I am today, and I think it's a completely legitimate strategy, there's only one goal but there's many ways to get there. Thank you for your questions, and best of luck with your vote!
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Post by Michelle Tesauro on Oct 28, 2008 0:38:41 GMT -4
Thank you both, I'm satisfied Jeff
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Post by Tijuana Bradley on Oct 29, 2008 1:57:45 GMT -4
Refer to my question jurors to see the extent of Andrew's personal attacks.
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Post by Andrew Savage on Oct 29, 2008 1:59:38 GMT -4
Are you serious?
Okay this is bullshit and YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED. I played this game being a villain I was never a fucking racist person in this game EVER, so I don't get why you go out of your way to lie an bullshit and manipulate the outcome.
Can we all be for real, and can you own up to you lying? I NEVER SAID ANY OF THAT.
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Post by Tijuana Bradley on Oct 29, 2008 2:01:26 GMT -4
Andrew.. you have lied so much in this game so I didn't expect anything less at the final Tribal Council. You made fun of African-Americans, as well as Asians which is so wrong on so many levels. Your not a good person in games, and I don't think you should be rewarded for that and everyone should be aware of the things you've said about people.
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Post by Andrew Savage on Oct 29, 2008 2:02:31 GMT -4
TIJUANA (PATRICK)! FUCK YOU.
I never once said anything about races, infact I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE and think they're funny as anyone who knows me would know.
I never said any of this and I'm about to puke on how you could lie about something like this. . .
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