Fairplay's Questions

[Fairplay]

Stay tuned... I'll post more tomorrow.

I have a lot of stuff to say.

Sorry, Andrew - I know that you wanted me to post this now, but I'm busy. And it MAY take a while to type everything I want to say. Or it might be short... I don't know. I just need to think and not be busy

[Fairplay]

Alright. Congratulations on making final 2 both of you. Obviously you both did something right, so I'm not going to criticize you. Even if it was riding somebody's ass to the end, lying your bitch ass self to the end, manipulating a large alliance, or jerking off to the end. I don't really care how you did it - the fact is, you're both here. So great job. There are many strategies to this game, and making it to the final 2 is really all that matters. Good job.


Andrew - A quote from your opening statement:

"I stole idols from: TRISH, JON, RYAN S., LIL, SANDRA, and NICOLE.

That move right there changed the WHOLE game. I was happy to have all these idols but I did pass a few to OSTEN and SHAWN my two alliance members originally from the beginning of the game. . . "

You speak about alliance members from the beginning of the game. Was it NOT you who got me to sign up for the game? Was it NOT you who told me that we'd be final 2 allies? Was it NOT you who broke our alliance first by stealing my idol?

So tell me... if you were THAT loyal to both of your alliance members... why did you not care when the plan was to take out Shawn half the time? Why did you try and blindside me many times? Why did you not care when the plan was to take out Osten, many of the times?


Shawn - A quote from your opening statement:

"I always looked at Andrew and I as strategic equals, we talked about every decision together, played the game together and basically decided how the game would pan out. The difference was that Andrew did some things we didn't talk about such as the idol stealing, he even tried to steal MY idols."

You say that you and Andrew are strategic equals. I haven't seen much strategy from you at all. Perhaps that's due to us never talking, perhaps that's due to other reasons. In any case... I haven't seen, heard, or done much of anything with you.

What moves did you make in the game? Or, more importantly, did you do anything in the game?


Both - I want to know what you thought of your fellow competitors.

Rank each juror, and give me a reason as to why they were great, or terrible. Make sure to clarify who was the worst, and who was the best in terms of their overall strategy.

Once again, good luck to both of you and congratulations.

[Shawn Cohen]

Oct 27, 2008 18:03:41 GMT -4 Fairplay said:

Shawn - A quote from your opening statement:

"I always looked at Andrew and I as strategic equals, we talked about every decision together, played the game together and basically decided how the game would pan out. The difference was that Andrew did some things we didn't talk about such as the idol stealing, he even tried to steal MY idols."

You say that you and Andrew are strategic equals. I haven't seen much strategy from you at all. Perhaps that's due to us never talking, perhaps that's due to other reasons. In any case... I haven't seen, heard, or done much of anything with you.

What moves did you make in the game? Or, more importantly, did you do anything in the game?


Both - I want to know what you thought of your fellow competitors.

Rank each juror, and give me a reason as to why they were great, or terrible. Make sure to clarify who was the worst, and who was the best in terms of their overall strategy.

Once again, good luck to both of you and congratulations.

This is very much like Michelle's question, but I'll run over my answer again.

1) One move was making an alliance with Burton which definitely helped me.
2) Giving Burton the idol that kept him in the game.
3) Seeing through Andrew's idol stealing BS.
4) Finding the double vote and keeping it a secret
5) Playing both sides of the fence (having an alliance with Ti and Andrew)
6) Manipulating conversations to keep my double alliance hidden from the other member.
7) Getting Andrew to give me 2 extra idols.

A reason you didn't see much strategy from me was because I purposely stayed behind the scenes and controlled things from behind the curtain. Why would I take the heat when someone like Andrew was there to take it for me? Why put more focus on myself than is needed? Survivor is Outwitting, Outplaying, and Outlasting, it never says anything about stealing the limelight.

JUROR RANKING

BEST
1- Osten- This guy had me shaking in my boots. He was a challenge beast, and definitely was a great alliance member. He definitely knew who to make an alliance with.

2- Tijuana- Ti and I are good friends, and I always hate playing the game with him because he's such a good player. If there was a player that was going to be my undoing prior to the final 4, it was going to be Ti, which is why I made the alliance so it wouldn't happen that way.

3- Fairplay- You were a great player, you knew when to talk, when to keep your mouth shut, and you thought you had things figured out. You pretty much did except for trusting Andrew, that was your undoing.

4- Ryan S.- I gave him a lot of crap during this game, but he played solidly. When we first started this game, everyone wrote him off and said he never does well, but he was able to make deep merge, and that's an accomplishment. I actually voted for him the TC that Ryno quit, and I actually began to enjoy talking to him as the game went on. Yes the vote Andrew was talking about was from me, but he wasn't supposed to tell anyone it was from me, it was honestly all in fun, however.

5-. Trish- I'm not really sure what Trish did in the game other than ride coattails, I just wasn't that involved with her. I knew I was keeping her to the final 3 because I knew Andrew or I could beat her at the final challenge depending on what the challenge was. She did make the final 3, and I would be a hypocrite for not rewarding that, no matter how you get there an accomplishment is an accomplishment.

6- Michelle- The only reason you're this low for me was because you didn't take the idol that Andrew gave to you. I know you were probably busy at that time, but taking that idol could have changed the game in a HUGE way. You played a great game, but unfortunately I didn't get to interact with you all that much, and I'm sure that impacts my decision.

7- Burton- Judging by this game only, you were the weakest player. I understand your computer went out, and that's a huge reason why you weren't around. The fact is that you weren't around, and that's why you're this low on the list.

Thanks for the questions, Jon, and best of luck with the vote!

[Fairplay]

Okay - I know you don't think it... but I actually didn't trust Andrew

I just decided that I hated Ryan enough to vote him out and HOPE that Andrew would stick with me. I could have gotten farther, but I wanted Ryan out, and I know that was my downfall - but I'm OKAY with that. I was behind a lot of tricks and votes that nobody knew about, but that's not what's on trial right now.

Best of luck to you, Shawn, and thanks for answering.

[Andrew Savage]

Before I answer this I want to tell you Shawn that you did not make me give you ANY idols, I decided it was best for our alliance.

[Andrew Savage]

I will answer this question tomorrow in the afternoon - I am sorry but I have school tomorrow and I need to like study and stuff and finish up homework.

[Andrew Savage]

Jon's Answer

So tell me... if you were THAT loyal to both of your alliance members... why did you not care when the plan was to take out Shawn half the time? Why did you try and blindside me many times? Why did you not care when the plan was to take out Osten, many of the times?

I didn't care to listen to you guys when you guys kept approaching me about hatching a plan to get rid of Shawn because yeah he may of been someone who wasn't good you guys or something but I had to think for myself. I knew if he went I would be somewhat the next person to go because all of you guys kind of made me feel like an outsider at one point of the game so I needed someone in the game to me that was close to me, and someone I could talk to and interact with. So I kept him and it helped me I always had his vote to get out anyone I wanted, and here we are here in the final two. So me not eliminating Shawn was a VERY good move on my part in the game. I tried to get you out of the game when Osten flipped and the lines were drawn. You said many times to me you didn't trust me and I understood but I began to take this all in and realize you're a gamer and my ass is a goner if I let you in the game for a substancial period of time, so I had to get you out someway or how. So why not confuse people and have stray votes everywhere. . so I know my plan would work? I didn't come after you because of your personality even though I liked you I came after you because you were good at the social part of the game and I know once the idols expired I could be the next one to go. I didn't want to take out Osten until I knew for sure he was the one who decided to swap on us because I know one of you guys could of just been feeding me stuff and asking myself to join you guys to take him out. I never knew that he swapped. . . so I could just be getting rid of an ally. So I had to analyze this and later down that round of the game I realized he swapped and he manned up and told me he did, therefor I wanted him out since then. So the answer to that is I wanted him out when I knew he wasn't with me; plus he was a challenge threat and was very smart, and had a good social game going.

Rank each juror, and give me a reason as to why they were great, or terrible. Make sure to clarify who was the worst, and who was the best in terms of their overall strategy.

BEST.

01. Osten- Osten in this game played so good. He was a player that knew how to play this game and combined many strategies into one which made him an adaptable player he could swap and play someone and have them feel he was on their side when in reality he wasn't. He was good at challenges and proved that he could prosper in that area. He was fun to talk to and had a love for this game and was genuine which helped him even more - being able to built intellectual bonds with other people. He was also strategic, he flopped on us and even though he did that he still made it up all until the final four of the game which shows he knew what he was doing and he didn't really piss anyone off. If anyone other than Shawn or I should be sitting here it should be him.

02. Tijuana- This girl can play the game and people very well. She knew how to become a leader in the alliance where she isn't seen as as this big target. . which is reality people SHE SHOULD. He knows how to be social without annoying people and when in trouble it's his social abilities that end up helping her stay in the game and fight longer. She came hardcore at me so I went back at her and it was more intense than JANELLE vs. DANIELLE (Big Brother Allstars) so that was one FINE fight. I loved playing with her and she changed the mood and masterminded the early stages and early jury stages of the game. She was a deadly player for me had she survived a few more tribal councils; and definitely deserved to win this game.

03. Jon- He was a good player! He is a very socially in-depth player and uses that to his advantage. In this game he got many people together to plan things out and helped orchestrate many boots in this game. He always knew when to stay under the radar and let the biggest personalities shine as they killed each other off, one-by-one. You know a lot about this game and you just got screwed because I was scared you could of flipped someone and I could be the next member of the jury!

04. Michelle- She played a great game, and she is the most social person I probably know. . she even talks to you if she doesn't like you much! So she played this game with honor and she was a sweetheart and that for her was a great strategy and too bad her old tribe turned on her because I would of loved her to go farther as she deserved to. I trusted her a lot, and I wish she was on to take my idol. Your game was really invisible to me because you could ADAPT to anything.

05. Trish- She made a lot of solid allies, and she spoke what was on her mind, and that right there I can respect because when people are blunt atleast they're being honest to you and you should atleast respect that. She was nice to just about everyone and she made the final three and was the last person left of her alliance. She played a good game.

06. Ryan S.- He didn't like me much in the game but he was a core alliance member of a huge alliance that was played out and developed in the merge. He was always blunt and honest and he was funny sometimes which helped him advance farther. I think him being too emotional; hurt his chances in the game because the longer you left him in the more he began to hate certain people. He could of made it farther I think if he would of just been a bit more stealth but overall he has played great!

07. Burton- He is a good player, but in this game he didn't get a chance to really play because of technology epicly failing on him. If he would of had a good internet access at the time of the game I know he could of worked people an certainly of gotten farther in the game but his demise was because Osten didn't want to risk the chance of having to hope he voted each round. That's the only reason he is this low on the list.

Thanks for the questions! Hope I answered them all, if not just holler.

[Fairplay]

Nice job, guys. Thanks for the answers, both of you answered quite well. Good luck to you both!

[Fairplay]

You want to see out of control? This is ridiculous.
Tijuana is worse than anyone.


Addiction 754 (2:05:00 AM): I finally posted jury questions.
Goltemis John (2:05:05 AM): I saw
Addiction 754 (2:05:38 AM): I don't know why your voting for him.
Goltemis John (2:05:45 AM): He played a great game
Goltemis John (2:05:48 AM): But I hate the guy
Addiction 754 (2:06:19 AM): John, how did he play a great game if he had 7 Hidden Immunity Idols. All he did was make people hate him and then hide behind his idols.
Goltemis John (2:06:27 AM): He didn't use them.
Addiction 754 (2:06:28 AM): Shawn made the final two, two games in a row.
Goltemis John (2:06:30 AM): He gave them away.
Addiction 754 (2:06:30 AM): So..
Goltemis John (2:06:35 AM): Shawn didn't do anything.
Goltemis John (2:06:37 AM): He sat back.
Goltemis John (2:06:44 AM): And watched us duke it out.
Goltemis John (2:06:47 AM): He and I never talked.
Addiction 754 (2:06:47 AM): He still used them as protection because people didn't know he gave them away.
Goltemis John (2:06:52 AM): Yes
Goltemis John (2:06:53 AM): But
Goltemis John (2:06:57 AM): He did some nice things
Addiction 754 (2:08:00 AM): So because Andrew actually talked.. and always talked shit about you, and your social game, and your pathetic online life, pathetic ex gf, and all this shit that I didn't bring up ecause I didn't want you mad at me.. you'll vote for him after he said those terrible things.
Goltemis John (2:08:17 AM): Lol
Goltemis John (2:08:22 AM): So you think I'm pathetic?
Addiction 754 (2:08:29 AM): Did I say that.. no.
Goltemis John (2:08:36 AM): You said you didn't bring them up
Addiction 754 (2:08:40 AM): I'm repeating to you what Andrew said.
Goltemis John (2:08:41 AM): Because you didn't want me mad at you
Addiction 754 (2:08:59 AM): Yea.. because then people will see what Andrew said about you, and it might've hurt your feelings.
Goltemis John (2:09:12 AM): I don't care what he said about me
Goltemis John (2:09:19 AM): My feelings are irrevelant to the vote
Goltemis John (2:09:22 AM): It's the strategy
Goltemis John (2:09:26 AM): Not the feelings
Addiction 754 (2:10:02 AM): He had no strategy except for talking shit and hiding behind his idols.. that's the thing you don't understand.
Goltemis John (2:10:07 AM): You weren't around
Goltemis John (2:10:10 AM): For the end
Goltemis John (2:10:13 AM): You have no say
Goltemis John (2:10:16 AM): You just disappeared
Addiction 754 (2:10:34 AM): I was still updated by the host, by Ryan, and by Osten.
Goltemis John (2:10:39 AM): LOL
Goltemis John (2:10:42 AM): Ryan doesn't count
Addiction 754 (2:10:54 AM): Okay.. but I heard from Osten and the host.
Addiction 754 (2:11:12 AM): And Andrew still text me everyday and I never responded once.
Goltemis John (2:12:05 AM): lol
Addiction 754 (2:15:20 AM): Wow.. Andrew is right, your afraid to stand up to him.
Goltemis John (2:15:50 AM): Afraid to stand up to Andrew?
Goltemis John (2:15:51 AM): lmao
Goltemis John (2:15:52 AM): Stop it.
Addiction 754 (2:16:32 AM): I'm sorry John, but I think your afraid of him ever since the TIB game. I mean he's told me about your hsitory and everything points to that.
Goltemis John (2:17:03 AM): Fuck you
Goltemis John (2:17:06 AM): I'm not scared of shit
Goltemis John (2:17:12 AM): Stop trying to get me to do something
Addiction 754 (2:17:15 AM): Then why are you his little bitch.
Goltemis John (2:17:18 AM): Through reverse Psychology
Goltemis John (2:17:19 AM): I'm not
Goltemis John (2:17:23 AM): I fight him ALL THE DAMN TIME
Addiction 754 (2:17:30 AM): But you are.
Addiction 754 (2:17:39 AM): Words and words.. you never take actions though.
Addiction 754 (2:17:41 AM): Never.
Goltemis John (2:17:51 AM): (sighs)
Goltemis John (2:17:54 AM): I'm taking a stand.
Addiction 754 (2:17:59 AM): I'm not trying to reverse anything.. I'm just trying to get you to be stronger.
Goltemis John (2:18:04 AM): And I got him fucking voted out of another game
Goltemis John (2:18:06 AM): You idiot
Goltemis John (2:18:10 AM): Don't talk to me
Goltemis John (2:18:12 AM): Ever again
Goltemis John (2:18:17 AM): I'm not scared of him
Goltemis John (2:18:19 AM): You dumbshit
Goltemis John (2:18:22 AM): Go fuck yourself
Addiction 754 (2:20:14 AM): Lol.. your real good at handeling things John. Just start getting mad and start yelling.. that's great. Andrew is right about you.. you don't really have a life outside of the computer, you dropped out of school, you dated a chick online, ROFL!! And you just got a job when your 20! 20.. Andrew and you are a lot of like.. you like to talk down on people, you like to sit online for hours upon hours, and you are both afraid to admit the truth. So vote for him, vote for someone that you can connect with, that's why you don't get along because he's too much like yourself.
Goltemis John (2:20:28 AM): Lol
Addiction 754 (2:21:41 AM): You think I'm joking.. that's why your voting for Andrew your his little bitch.
Addiction 754 (2:22:37 AM): And don't talk bad about Ryan anymore.. your doing that to try and make yourself feel better.
Addiction 754 (2:24:16 AM): And you have no arguement to come back at me which is why your hiding behind the computer screen, yet again.
Goltemis John (2:24:17 AM): I'm blocking you
Goltemis John (2:24:20 AM): No
Goltemis John (2:24:22 AM): I was busy
Addiction 754 (2:24:25 AM): What a sad existince you have John.
Goltemis John (2:24:26 AM): I am blocking you
Goltemis John (2:24:34 AM): At least I can fucking spell "existence"
Addiction 754 (2:24:36 AM): Okay.. run away and hide.
Addiction 754 (2:24:38 AM): Block.
Addiction 754 (2:24:41 AM): OMG!

[Ryan Shoulders]

really classy john u are a true gentlemen

but then again I don't count

[Fairplay]

What are you talking about, Ryan? Look at how he attacked me.

I don't see why everyone is attacking me for who I want to vote. LET ME BE!

[Shawn Cohen]

Guys, it's a freaking online game. I want to win as much as the next guy but let's not argue over it. Every jury member gets to make their own decision, let Fairplay make his. Let's stop the arguing, let the jury vote, and get on with our lives.